Thoughts on anti-Prop 8 arguments.

This site comes in response to friends who complained, "I don't know how to answer when Pro-8 folks say 'X'."

These arguments are meant to be discussed OUT THERE, in real life with real people, not here in the reverberating blogosphere. There are plenty of sites where you can discuss them. So, no comments here.

To those who believe in equal rights for ALL, Prop8 = PropHate. If you have any doubts that this is solely about discrimination, then try replacing "gay marriage" with "inter-racial marriage" and "gay" with "black".

Help us protect our families, defend our rights, and defeat the hate amendment.

Friday, October 24, 2008

Argument 7: Marriage is for procreation

There are two counters to this argument.

First, we do not limit marriage to fertile couples. We allow the elderly to marry. WE allow people who are sterile, or unable to have sex, to marry. We allow couples who choose NOT to have children, to marry. Our society has uncoupled marriage from procreation.

If the predominant interest of society in marriage is the production of offspring, then there would be fertility or fecundity tests, we would cause couples without children to divorce, and we would not allow the patently unfertile to marry. That we do, means that it is unjustifiable to disallow any two committed adults from marrying.

Second, gay couples have children too! We have children from previous marriages, from in vitro or surrogacy, from adoption and fostering. Our families exist now, and are not going away. So denying us marriage directly and negatively impacts OUR children, by denying them the legal protections that ensue from married parents.

Attacking our families by denying them protection is not about family values. It's about bias.

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